23 Aug 2018

The End of Communion Services without a Priest in California



The End of Communion Services without a Priest in California

August 17, 2018 
Laity are being instructed not to distribute the Holy Eucharist without a priest
The bishop of Santa Rosa, CA, has ordered an immediate end to religious services in which the Holy Eucharist is distributed to the faithful without a priest present, declaring that this practice “is not consistent with the Instructions from the Holy See.”
“It has become common in a number of Parishes and Institutions in the Diocese of Santa Rosa for Deacons and Laity to hold Communion Services in the Absence of a Priest on both Sundays and weekdays,” wrote Bishop Vasa in a statement published on the website of his diocese on July 25.
“While popular,” wrote the prelate, this practice “is not consistent with the Instructions from the Holy See".
Bishop Vasa ordered these communion services without a priest on Sundays and weekdays to cease completely everywhere in his diocese, effective August 1, 2018.
The bishop of Santa Rosa’s decision is praiseworthy; but will it be enough to put an end to a practice whose principle is unfortunately permitted by the Code of Canon Law promulgated in 1983, that says the faithful can distribute communion “when the need of the Church warrants it and ministers are lacking”? (Canon 230,3)
This liberal legislation of 1983 corresponds with what was practiced just after the Council, as the Dominican Fr. Calmel described in his letter of September 15, 1972:
No more tonsure, no more sub-diaconate; they begin with the diaconate; and the Eucharistic ministry (Communion for the sick, distributing Communion) can be entrusted to laymen; and the (‘collegialized’) national conferences could spread this practice even more. The Modernist system of devaluating and ruining the priesthood is at work thanks to Paul VI.

1 Jun 2018

PLEASE COMMENT.

PLEASE COMMENT. I have been working out a way to explain to my children what is going on in the Church today. I would like anyone to provide their comments on my current working theological history thesis: Modernism continues to erode the faith in Euro-America because Vatican II failed to condemn it, and Modernist clergy in Euro-America continue to promote Modernism. (If anyone would like my sources for any of this, just ask.)
1. Modernism is condemned vehemently by Pius X (Tyrell wanted to use thomism to introduce modernism secretly, modernist creeds showed modernists to use same language for modernism)
2. Benedict XV continues to see modernism (inaugural encyclical Ad beatissimi condemns it), but is nearly wiped out by World War I
3. Modernism resurfaced in Nouvelle theologie, although some of them leaned more orthodox (like Ratzinger)
4. Germany is occupied by Allies and Soviets and are hated by the world
5. Modernist Nouvelle theologie is condemned in Humani Generis (1950)
6. St. John XXIII allows modernists at Vatican II as periti
7. Modernist (esp. German) periti dominate the council, forcing original schemata to be thrown out, and ambiguous documents approved
8. St. Paul VI believes that Vatican II will bring springtime of faith and allows many Modernists to have their way with the Church.
9. Oath against modernism is abolished and concilium takes apart Misdal by censoring references to sin/death/hell from Missal Ordo and propers as well permitting modernist translations with Comme le prevoit, external innovations are promoted like the people altar, communion in hand, and the destruction of sacred music
10. St. Paul VI condemns contraception, and attempts to prevent further abuse of Communion in the Hand by giving a limited indult on it, also indults the 1965 Missal for England
11. Modernism runs rampant - Mass attendance and vocations in Euro-America plummet continually through present (other areas not previously affected by Modernism, such as Africa, experience growth). Priests and Bishops secretly cover up the unclean wickedness of evil priests abusing children in many countries
12. (1972) St. Paul VI famously observes that “the smoke of Satan” has infected the Church, referring particularly to the liturgical “reform,” he privately disagrees with many of the Missal changes, but does no official acts
13. (1978) Wojtyla is elected JPII
14. (1992) JPII issues New Catechism via Ratzinger, confirming Orthodoxy against Modernist use of Vatican II
15. JPII (1998) creates new Oath Of Fidelity (against Modernism), condemns modernist theologians like Hans Kung and modernist liberation theology, confirms orthodoxy against false feminism
16. JPII creates FSSP to promote 1962 Missal and heal division with SSPX. Drafts a similar document to Summorum Pontificum (including requiring a 1962 Mass in each diocese) but states privately that the time has not yet come for wider allowance of 1962 Missal
17. Orthodox vocations and orders using 1962 Missal grow in Euro-America and continue growing through present, young people begin to attend 1962 Missal increasingly. Novus Ordo Mass Attendence continues to drop in Euro-America
18. Dominus Iesus (2000) definitively condemns the Modernist interpretation of one of Vatican II’s central concepts (the subsistit controversy)
19. Liturgiam Authenticam (2001) condemns (indirectly) Comme le prevoit and confirms Formal Equivalence as correct ecclesiastical translation theory, and cleanses modernists from ICEL
20. Germany and Italy refuse to re-translate, whereas new ICEL translation is faithful to Latin, albeit with existing textual censors already mentioned (#7)
21. Meanwhile, Mafia of St. Gall is organized secretly by Cardinals and others who oppose the pontificate of JPII and Ratzinger, lobby for Bergoglio as pope (allegedly)
22. (2007) Benedict XVI issues Summorum Pontificum, allowing broadest possible use of 1962 Missal, without requiring it in every diocese
23. (2013) Benedict mysteriously abdicates
24. 2013 Bergoglio is elected. Confirms Germany and Italy’s disobedience to Liturgiam Authenticam by issuing new powers to country’s translations, publicly mocks orthodox Catholicism, refuses to answer multiple Dubia on Marriage from thousands of laity, priests, bishops, suppresses religious orders using 1962 Missal, refuses to issue clear teaching, preferring to issue extremely long encyclicals, the interpretation of which causes massive division among episcopate. Climate of fear pervades among clergy as Modernist bishops and priests begin to exert their influence.
25. Bishops and clergy increasingly celebrate 1962 Missal, including publicly criticizing Novus Ordo Missal. Bishops and Cardinals begin to publicly criticize the Pope
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. #14 is completely false. Karol Wojtyla is a Modernist par excellence. The CCC makes over 600 references to Vatican II; quotes John Paul II 135 times; and never once quotes St. Pius X. There is simply no way it can "confirm orthodoxy" without references to St. Pius X.
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. #15 is also wrong. In 1988 JPII declared the champion of orthodox Catholicism (Marcel Lefebvre) to be self-excommunicated.
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. #16 is wrong. He established the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei *NOT* to heal anything with the SSPX but to wage war on them. His motu proprio did not establish a 1962 Missal in each diocese but sustained the policy of Paul VI to suppress it by requiring a Bishop's special permission (indult).
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. #19: ICEL applies only to English speaking episcopal conferences. The 400+ translational errors are corrected by the new edition but cannot change the liturgy itself which Cardinals Ottaviani and Bacci described as a "striking departure from the theology of the Mass defined by the Council of Trent."
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. #22 is wrong. Summorum Pontificum only says that no priest needs a bishop's permission to celebrate with the 1962 Missal ALONE - that is, without any faithful present.
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Timothy Flanders Hey Johnny. I disagree with most of what you said. First: are you in communion with Pope Francis and second: can you share your sources?

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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. Tim, yes, I attend Mass at a FSSP parish, and the sources are too many too list. Iota Unum (Romano Amerio), Pope John's Liturgical Revolution (Michael Davies), Rhine Flows into the Tiber (Ralph Wiltgen), One Hundred Years of Modernism (Dominic Bourmaud...See More
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Joel Thomson The Smoke of Satan quote was actually delivered in the context of the fruits of the Council not being allowed to go as far as they need to for the revolution he started. Paul VI goes on to say later "We believe in something that is preternatural that h...See More
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Joel Thomson Also everything else Johnny pointed out aldeady
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. "... Church from breaking into the hymn of joy at having renewed in fullness its awareness of itself."
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That is sooooooo 60s psycho-babble....
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Timothy Flanders Johnny and Joel: thanks for your thoughts. Johnny I appreciate your comments responding to the points. One of the issues with V2 is the abandoning of the orthodox terminology in favor of these new terms which are difficult to define and can be interpre...See More
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. Sedevacantism is a dead end which leaves the Church with no hierarchy, illicit bishops and clergy, and no way out.

Conservatives fail to distinguish the anomaly of Vatican II from the previous 20 Ecumenical Councils. The previous 20 followed a form as
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. "Scholastic theology was set aside with its emphasis on reality, immutable essences, and concrete manifestations of the divine Being and in its place emerged personalism, phenomenology, and existentialism - all condemned in Pius XII's Humani generis. T...See MoreManage
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. A short summary of problems with the council.
1. There was no crisis in the Church to solve by an ecumenical council in 1962. In fact, the Church was enjoying robust health under Pope Pius XII.
2. The schemata (70 documents for discussion prepared by a
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. "Certainly, the results [of Vatican II] seem cruelly opposed to the expectations of everyone, beginning with those of Pope John XXIII and then of Paul VI: expected was a new Catholic unity and instead we have been exposed to dissension which---to use t...See More
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Johnny ProctorJohnny and 5 others manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Catholic Laymen's Theology Forum. Per the hermeneutic of continuity:
If there were a true hermeneutic of continuity, Unitatis redintegratio (document on ecumenism) would have cited Pope Pius XI's Mortalium animos (1928) as its point of departure. Instead, it reads as though Pius XI never existed. Such examples are numerous and quite easy to cite.
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Richard Broussard Modernism has its roots before St. Pius X. Most notably under Cardinal Rampolla of Vienna who was almost elected in place of St. Pius X in 1903. Benedict XV is purported to have been a "spiritual child" in essence of Rampolla but the war kept him from doing anything in Church politics.
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